Friday, September 13, 2013

Encountering Privilege

I am sorry for the formatting issues- copying from Facebook does some weird things

A few months ago I got involved in a discussion on Twitter (oh no) about sexism (yes folks, he really is intelligent). It got heated and I disagreed with someone. I don't remember how the conversation ended but it did.
This morning on my walk to work my phone gives me the note that I got a message on Facebook. After some time of this man yelling at me, I remember this conversation. I'm going to paste it here for you all to see.
I don't know what I did to offend him so much, but apparently my belief that all humans, regardless of gender, are equal, was too much for him to handle. I'm kind of shocked that he took months to track me down and send this all to me. 
Also, I am posting it verbatim, so I want to warn readers that this guy's language is rather offensive.
At end of the posted conversation. I blocked him. I don't expect him to change and nothing I can say will alter his thought process. For the first time in a long time though, I actually felt violated. My family, thankfully, got out of Europe before Hitler. But for someone who claims to know me, he knows very little.
As if that wasn't obvious.

Him: hey ... fuck yourself..... i forgot to tell you how much you make me ill a few months ago...

Me: im sorry do i know you?

H: Ya exactley.... you dont know me but you were so quick a few months ago to say how much i made you ill cause i had an opinion that wasnt as liberal as you wanted it to be
fking retarded moron
M: yeah. i think youre mistaken. sorry man
H: like i said, you can go fuck yourself.
tell your star athlete mother that she should have raised a child that had the good sense to form his own opinions, not just the liberal band wagon of the day
M: dude. I don't know who you were talking to but I'm pretty sure you're mistaken.
H: AHAHAHAHAH
not at all you dumb fking retarded... you are proving my point entirley.
you saw someone on twitter saying someone was sexist and you just jumped the band wagon.... you even admit now that you dont know anything about me or what i was saying.
try to be unbias before you jump into a discussion.
the worst thing about liberal cunts like you is that you think thats your different from the retarded conservatist...
extremism is any form is a vice.
you talked about how the women in your family were star athletes and you were a pussy... and how that proves women are just the same as men
you are a moron follower
M: I remember this vaguely. Thanks for reminding me.
This was around something Jackie Lee posted. Thank you.
H:Fucking retard
liberalism is nazism for vaginas
get the facts straight before you open your ignorant mouth... just cause its liberal doesnt make it right.
and just cause someone has a penis doesnt make them sexist...
ppl like you are fascist with with better record collections. 
tell your mom that she raised a ignorant follower. in 1930's germany youd have raised your hand as far into the air as you could reach.
M: I highly doubt that.
H: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH... for sure... you are a follower... you will do whatever the crowd is doing. ive seen you do it. you were one of the most vocal and you dont know a thing about me. YOU ARE THE PUREST KIND OF FOLLOWER
YOU MAKE ME ILL
M: You also clearly know nothing about me. I'm Jewish. My family had to escape Europe.
H: Fuck you.
you are a follower... learn to get the facts before you open your ignorant mouth in the future.
everything i said was true but you saw someone getting called a sexist so you jumped on the band wagon.
and yes youd have stood in line and saluted Hitler.


25 comments:

david s said...

LOL... i knew youd post this some where as soon as you could to get some attention. instead of debating the issue you just want to get others to say how awesome you are. the fact is that you are a follower and your opinion is forged by what others think, not on what the truth is. You are a total joke.

Haza said...

Making statements based on past events he has no verification are still valid (human opinion changes over time), false equivalency, ad hominem, buzzword usage (bandwagon/leftist/liberal), Godwin's Law.

Usually, I stop caring about what someone has to say after the third fallacy. That this man can take himself seriously after committing five... Astonishing.

Oh, and if you're going to pretend this is an argument instead of just internet shitslinging, dear David, state your points and your justifications clearly and succinctly. Otherwise, well, the off button for your computer should be easily within reach.

david s said...

first point Fuck you all....AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH


i dont care what any of you think... you are pathetic twitter scum... the facts dont matter with you people... all you want to do is jerk each other off and say how right you are.

the fact that this fucking retard posted this on his pathetic blog proves how little the facts matter and how its just an attention game.

Haza said...

If it is an attention game, you're falling right for it. The smart thing to do would be to ignore.

But, I am genuinely curious: state which gender is superior to the other, with peer-reviewed links, verifiable historical events, and proof linking your evidence to the overall fitness of either gender to your given evidence.

And learn a little punctuation. It belittles yourself to appear sloppy and childish in a debate.

david s said...

Fuck You.... period :)

Haza said...

I'd rather you didn't; you're not my type.

My request still stands. State your case and arguments, please, or admit they have no basis and can be dismissed.

david s said...

my argument hasnt changed

Fuck you ... period.

its pretty simple, even some ignorant twitter scum like you guys can understand that

Haza said...

You do not understand the concept of an argument. From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument):

"...an argument is an attempt to persuade someone of something, by giving reasons for accepting a particular conclusion as evident."

Please, try to do better than this. I know you can.

david s said...

what part of fuck you dont you understand??

:)

passive aggressive and all :)

david s said...

no dont stop haza, you are a follower too

david s said...

and im not sling the term... twitter is a hot bed of the same kind of mentality that the nazi capitalized on in the 1930's

the public call out was a major tactic of the third reich

Daniel Kenmar said...

I hate politics... It ruins friendships, fandoms, and intelligent conversation. I'm conservative, but I can't stand when politics start yet another flame war.

david s said...

the worst part of this situation is that alex and jackie and haza just get on twitter and msg eachother about how right they are and how im a troll, when this all started from jackies and alexs trolling. Twitter is a fucking gang bang for cowards and trolls. get a clue you fucking tools

david s said...

seriously Alex you fucking attention whore... youve tweeted 28 times about this in less then an hour !!!!! YOU FUCKING RETARD!!

david s said...

Alex Ullman ‏@nerdtothecore 9m
@JackieL33 It took me a while to realize what was going on...
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Jackie Lee ‏@JackieL33 7m
@nerdtothecore It's funny; I remember that comment you posted.
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Alex Ullman ‏@nerdtothecore 5m
@JackieL33 some people...
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Alex Ullman ‏@nerdtothecore 9m
@JackieL33 It took me a while to realize what was going on...
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Alex Ullman ‏@nerdtothecore 17m
@Hackworth this isn't random. We engaged on twitter...he found me months later.
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Alex Ullman ‏@nerdtothecore 21m
@HazaVair I understand this sentiment as well. He's a troll.
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Alex Ullman ‏@nerdtothecore 27m
@HazaVair just ignore. Not worth it.
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Alex Ullman ‏@nerdtothecore 29m
@Revisedangel again, if my world view was coming down around me, I'd be in a panic as well.
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Alex Ullman ‏@nerdtothecore 30m
@boostkilla @E_Hustle_MTG @jsiri84_mtg Heath is pretty darn awesome @MTGOTraders
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Alex Ullman ‏@nerdtothecore 31m
@Revisedangel on some level, I'm flattered.
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Alex Ullman ‏@nerdtothecore 32m
@Revisedangel this guy's world view is collapsing around him and he wants to hold on to whatever he can. I'm a public target.
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Alex Ullman ‏@nerdtothecore 32m
@Revisedangel it's a surefire way to get under my skin, given my ethnicity.
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Alex Ullman ‏@nerdtothecore 36m
@boostkilla @E_Hustle_MTG pretty sure they're from Valkyrie
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Alex Ullman ‏@nerdtothecore 40m
@E_Hustle_MTG @boostkilla I thought it was from Valkyrie (Tom Cruise). I love Inglorious Basterds- young Jewish kid fantasy and all that
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Alex Ullman ‏@nerdtothecore 42m
@thoughtxriot I tried to be civil. I just wanted a nice walk to work =/
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Alex Ullman ‏@nerdtothecore 44m
@E_Hustle_MTG @boostkilla ..as much as such a film can distance itself from the horror. I don't like it, but I also don't oppose it.
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Alex Ullman ‏@nerdtothecore 45m
@E_Hustle_MTG @boostkilla personally, I don't watch them. But it's a fair question. I know it's from a movie unrelated to the Holocaust..
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Alex Ullman ‏@nerdtothecore 48m
@danaflops apparently that means I'm a fascist.
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Alex Ullman ‏@nerdtothecore 48m
@danaflops he's since commented on the post saying he was trying to debate. I remember this conversation. I said women can be athletes.
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Alex Ullman ‏@nerdtothecore 50m
@Revisedangel This is interesting: http://nerdtothecore.blogspot.com/2013/09/encountering-privilege.html …
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Alex Ullman ‏@nerdtothecore 50m
@hrslaton Good luck with your quest sir.
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Alex Ullman ‏@nerdtothecore 51m
Update: he commented on the post asking for debate. Clearly he wanted debate.
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Alex Ullman ‏@nerdtothecore 55m
@boostkilla I was content to leave him unblocked until he got to the Hitler stuff.
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Alex Ullman ‏@nerdtothecore 56m
A @hrslaton is a good friend, a great Magician, and a better writer: http://www.hipstersofthecoast.com/2013/09/2317-how-magic-got-me-sober/?fb_comment_id=fbc_168697723321217_244020_168821179975538#f5f618568 …
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Alex Ullman ‏@nerdtothecore 57m
Had no idea @hrslaton and I played in the same Coldsnap prerelease until today.
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Alex Ullman ‏@nerdtothecore 1h
Months ago I got into a discussion about sexism regarding something @JackieL33 posted. The opposition found me: http://nerdtothecore.blogspot.com/2013/09/encountering-privilege.html …

david s said...
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david s said...

the guy blocks me on facebook and tehn jumps on twitter to rant and rave about me... COWARD :)

Anonymous said...

It saddens me that we have to share such a wonderful community with David. They say ignorance is bliss, it's just too bad that it's not more painful.

david s said...

the only sad thing is that fascism is so alive and thriving in america today. and that people like alex and jackie lee get rewarded and coddled for being cowards and band wagoners. "wonderful community"??? ya real wonderful

david s said...

Alex Ullman ‏@nerdtothecore 1h
@Revisedangel This is interesting: http://nerdtothecore.blogspot.com/2013/09/encountering-privilege.html …
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Erin Campbell ‏@OriginalOestrus 13m
@nerdtothecore @Revisedangel That was genuinely creepy. Keep your head up, sir.
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Alex Ullman ‏@nerdtothecore 9m
@OriginalOestrus @Revisedangel thanks kindly.
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Erin Campbell ‏@OriginalOestrus 4m
@nerdtothecore @Revisedangel And you're cute as a button!
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Alex Ullman ‏@nerdtothecore 3m
@OriginalOestrus @Revisedangel well, blush, and thanks!
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david s said...

and to play the victim in all this... thats the saddest thing probley

Jackie Lee said...

Hi David,

I just wanted to say that I read what you have to say, and I understand that you're still frustrated about this.

I know how you feel, and you're not alone. Society makes a lot of assumptions about who you are and what you should be, and that's not fair, either. You should be recognized for your accomplishments.

I'm sorry to hear that you're having a bad day, but I truly hope you find happiness and recognition. That's what you deserve.

david s said...

jackie you are a joke... this all started cause you couldnt except the facts of my original point. Instead of admitting the truth you try to hold a witch hunt to hide the facts in a sea of pathetic twitter circle jerking. Learn to live in reality and not just the echo chamber of the internet.

david s said...

Jackie Lee ‏@JackieL33 1 Mar
Thanks to whoever reported @DBSaylor for harassment. I was about to do it, then found the account was already suspended! #justice @asmallx


Sounds like someone is scared to really debate the issues... :) and why do you think im having a bad day??? its actually been a really good day and its only going to get better when i can call out scum fuck twitter whores like you and alex :)

Alexander Ullman said...

I'm locking comments on this post.